BFD2 and HI HAT settings

[angr77]

It seems like that the pedal is completely right configured and that bdf2 is reacting in the right way. The note mapping for the hihat bow/edge looks strange for the pad. Test with note 42 for closed bow and 22 for closed edge and see how bdf2 reacts. Set the pedal notes to the same for closed Bow to 42 and the closed edge to 22.

If you are uncertain about how your mappings is done...check carefully in bdf2 software and see which notes which is closed etc...

The generic octave shift parameter should be at 2.

Anders

[drumdhiver]

Thank you Ander,

I have a questions : I set my yamaha HH like a "Dual/3way yamaha", I set my ride like a "Dual/3way yamaha", I set different notes to them,
I've always C-1 common note between them. why??

Do you say I have to change Bow and Edge notes (42&22) in BFD2?

[lunalone]

Have you been able to sort this out? I experience the same thing right now, using a Yamaha RHH135 HiHat. I only get a signal when I set the edge to "Piezzo". The "Switch"-setting produces no output at all.

And hitting the bow and edge MD always sends the same note (in my case C 2), regardless what note is actually set. Has anyone a suggestions, what's causing this?

[dmitri]

This is an old thread so:

1. Post screenshots of your HiHat Pedal settings (including Levels and Notes)
2. Post screenshot of your HiHat cymbal settings
3. Describe in detail what the problem is

Most likely, HiHat pedal levels are not set correctly so MegaDrum sees the pedal as in some closed or not fully open state so it uses BowSO/EdgeSO/BellSO/BowHO/EdgeHO/BellHO/BowSCL/EdgeSCL/BellSCL/BowCL/EdgeCL/BellCL notes from the Pedal settings instead of notes from the HiHta cymbal settings.

[lunalone]

Hi Dmitri,
thanks for your support.

below are the screenshots you asked for.

The Midi Monitor output is what I see after doing three medium strikes to the bow and three medium strikes to the edge. I am using config setting for Yamaha RHH135 as suggested here: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2312

I also modified a stereo cable to switch tip and ring for the controller. Control Change works nicely as far as I see. It's only zone separation and that a single note is sent which is not defined anywhere whether in the pedal nor pad section.

Some additional info. The MD is the new ARM Version built by you. I just got it a couple of days ago. I'm on a Mac using OS X 10.85.

[lunalone]

Midi Monitor output:

[lunalone]

When I disconnect the pedal the output is the same.

[dmitri]

1. Threshold on the 3rd zone MUST always be lower than Threshold of the Edge Input. Also, if it is a 3 way Yamaha cymbal, all 3rd zone notes must not be zero. These two combined is the reason why you seeing C-2 in your MIDI logging. Btw, MDC has built-in MIDI Log with Raw output which shows all MIDI data, not just note names. If it a dual zone cymbal set notes in 3rd zone equal to notes of the Edge input.
2. How did you do the configuration of the cymbal? It seems like you left Threshold on the Edge at default and I doubt it is the right Threshold level of the switch (Edge) input for your cymbal.
3. All the levels (except Low and High) in the Pedal settings are at 0. It is perfectly ok provided you use CC messages for pedal positions in your VST. Is this the case?

Just blindly copying somebodies settings without some understanding what they mean may cause more problems than when configuring these settings from scratch on your own. I'd suggest you to read settings descriptions in http://www.megadrum.info/content/megadrum-configuration

[lunalone]

Well, I thought it was a good idea to copy those settings since they were meant for the same hardware I am about to use. But it renders you're right about the threshold setting. I was able to produce some results by lowering the edge threshold to 26. Doing that the correct note is sent by hitting the edge. C2 is not sent any more. But I will do what you said about setting up the third zone. It is a 2-zone hihat, so i will use the edge notes and lower the threshold. I'll report back and post the final settings, when I'm happy with the results. Thanks a lot.

[lunalone]

After changing the third zone note to the same as edge note, i am not able to trigger the edge note anymore. When hitting the edge it will produce the bow note. Going back to note zero on third zone. Seems to work so far, but still tweaking.

Lowering the third zone threshold stopped putting out the C 2-note with higher threshold on the switch though. But since lowering the edge-threshold to 26 did the same for me, I am happy to have another option. Going back to the lab